Turned up card invariably favors the computer hand

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Turned up card invariably favors the computer hand

Postby Woo » Jun 19, 2009

Has anyone had the experience playing Cribbage that the turned up card invariably favors the computer hand ?


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Re: Cribbage

Postby Aidan » Oct 12, 2009

Well I've discussed this before and can only say once again that the cards are not in any way stacked - it makes absolutely no sense for me (the author) to do so - the idea is to keep customers happy after all and make a nice cribbage game.

Also note that 50% of the time, the cards that are dealt/turned up are 100% influenced by the position where you cut the cards using the mouse, so if you get bad cards after that cut, the result is your own doing. The other 50% of the time the computer randomly cuts a randomly shuffled deck - if you get bad cards (and you are not the only one alas) its just down to bad luck, or the "ghost in the machine" phenomenon.
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turned up card favours the computer

Postby g.warren » Dec 06, 2009

I have only just purchased cribbage but an earlier comment that the turned up card favours the computer hand is spot on. the hands the computer has are unbelievable and the turned up card always at least doubles the computers score per hand. I am using 1.60, will this problem be sorted in the next version. If you play the game you will see the problem.

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Re: Turned up card invariably favors the computer hand

Postby Aidan » Dec 07, 2009

This is not a problem as such and hence won't be fixed. Read my answer to the post above to see why. The only solution would be to fix the computer's cards so that it always gets bad cards or rarely gets good cards and this I am not going to do.
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Re: Turned up card invariably favors the computer hand

Postby bjb47 » Dec 08, 2009

Oddly, I have not noticed this computer-favoured cut. I guess that my computer likes me more than your computer likes you.
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Re: Turned up card invariably favors the computer hand

Postby marKrib » Dec 18, 2009

Here are some hands from my actual games. I didn't include my hands or the cribs. I love the feel of the game but the odds of these hands actually happening randomly defies logic.
FIRST GAME, COMPUTER "WINS" BY 22.
turned Hand AFFECTED FAVORABLY
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4H 2C,5H,9D,9S Y
4S 2C,10C,2D,3S Y
2S KS,JS,10H,5H No - a rare one as you'll see
10S 10C,QH,JS,5S Y
5D 4D,7H,3D,6C Y - this is an example of why people are complaining
7C QS,8S,QC,8S Y
AD 4C,7H,3D,6C Y
8H 3H,4C,AC,2C Y
10H 2S,5D,JD,QS Y

SECOND GAME COMPUTER WINS BY 30!
5S 5D,JS,10S,QD Y
8D 9H,10H,KC,10C Y
KH QC,9S,5C,5H Y
7C 2C,9S,8D,5C Y
KS 5H,6D,5C,7S Y
QD AH,2H,4S,3S Y
4D 5C,8C,KC,KS N, ALTHOUGH CRIB WAS A,2,3,5
4S 4H,KS,6D,5H Y

Once again, I'm not saying this could never happen randomly, but the odds of so many consecutive hands being enhanced by the turned card must be astronomical.
Some of it may be the "luck of the draw" but if you've ever played cribbage with "live" opponents, you'd realize something is just not right here.
The odds of it happening randomly is just not possible.
Respectfully.

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Re: Turned up card invariably favors the computer hand

Postby bjb47 » Jan 08, 2010

Check your stats. Under "Average Hand Points Per Round Won" you will find how little the turned up card favours the computer. Of the 80 games I have played against the machine, the lead has see-sawed between me and Mac. Currently, the computer has won 41 games. The difference in the aforementioned AHPPRW is only one point (8 – 7.) Is yours that much different?

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Re: Turned up card invariably favors the computer hand

Postby Mike Meadows » Jan 27, 2010

The turn up card improves the computers hand from doubling it to, at time tripling it....This is from a weeks of playing maybe 80,to 90 games...of which I won 4....

Cutting for the deal...today I went 17 times before I got the deal and then, I always have to put my two card into crib before the computer whether I deal or not...
I'm a good cribbage player and have played for 30 years...I've never, never seen a player or a computer get the cards it gets...I get a 10 hand, the comp gets a 14 hand...I get a 6 hand, the comp gets a 10 hand....and 18 times out of 20, the comp got nibs.....

Random???????? The comp has been programmed to get the very best it can and it does....

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Re: Turned up card invariably favors the computer hand

Postby Mike Meadows » Jan 27, 2010

But I still like playing the game......

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Re: Turned up card invariably favors the computer hand

Postby Woo » Jan 27, 2010

I have now played over 450 games . The computer has won 410 + to my 40 but this is not the issue . The issue is that the turned up card almost invariably improves the computer's hand and rarely mine . I can fairly accurately predict what is in the computer's hand by seeing the turned up card . this detracts from the enjoyment of playing the game .


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